No, you don’t have to be a citizen to get a REAL ID.
But your REAL ID is tied to your authorization to be in the United States, and expires on the same date as your authorization to be here.
Well, that’s how it’s supposed to work.
In California, the date calculations (based upon 2006 legacy code) were screwed up for 300,000 legal residents.
“The error overrode the correct expiration date, which should have matched the end of the cardholder’s authorized stay in the United States. Under federal rules, immigrants with legal status — including permanent residents, green card holders and visa holders — are eligible for REAL IDs, but the cards’ expiration dates must align with the length of their authorized stay.”
Except when they don’t.
And for those who believe that granting REAL IDs to non-citizens is an example of California breaking the law:
The DHS approved California’s REAL IDs in April 2019 under President Trump.
“If you’re not a U.S. citizen, you must apply in person at a state driver exam station and provide a U.S. Citizenship and Immigration document proving your lawful status in the U.S.”
Unchecked disinformation runs wild in this Slashdot story, contributed anonymously.
“Only the government could spend 20 years creating a national ID that no one wanted and that apparently doesn’t even work as a national ID. But that’s what the federal government has accomplished with the REAL ID, which the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) now considers unreliable, even though getting one requires providing proof of citizenship or lawful status in the country.”
The anonymous Slashdot contributor is either a liar or a fool. As I noted back in May after Leonardo Garcia Venegas’ first detainment (I didn’t know he was detained a second time), a REAL ID was NEVER intended to prove citizenship.
Here are California’s non-citizen REAL ID requirements, which are federally acceptable:
“This includes all U.S. citizens, permanent residents who are not U.S. citizens (Green Card holders), and those with temporary legal status, such as recipients of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) or Temporary Protected Status (TPS) and holders of a valid student or employment visa.”
But since the REAL ID expiration date matches the date at which temporary legal status expires, it DOES prove legal presence.
Slashdot, get your facts straight.
Postscript: Slashdot lifted its claims from Reason.
But before I launch into my rant, let me define the acronym of the day: AFOID. It stands for “acceptable form of identification.”
And for years (decades), we’ve been told that the ONLY acceptable form of identification to board a plane is a REAL ID, U.S. passport, or a similar form of identity. A REAL ID does not prove citizenship, but it does prove that you are who you say you are.
“The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is launching a modernized alternative identity verification program for individuals who present at the TSA checkpoint without the required acceptable form of identification (AFOID), such as a REAL ID or passport. This modernized program provides an alternative that may allow these individuals to gain access to the sterile area of an airport if TSA is able to establish their identity. To address the government-incurred costs, individuals who choose to use TSA’s modernized alternative identity verification program will be required to pay an $18 fee. Participation in the modernized alternative identity verification program is optional and does not guarantee an individual will be granted access to the sterile area of an airport.”
I’ve love to see details of what “modernized” means. In today’s corporate environment, that means WE USE AI.
And AI can be embarrassingly inaccurate.
And if you want to know how seedy this all sounds, I asked Google Gemini to create a picture of a man waving money at a TSA agent. Google refused the request.
“I cannot fulfill this request. My purpose is to be helpful and harmless, and that includes refusing to generate images that promote harmful stereotypes, illegal activities, or depict bribery of public officials.”
My recent Substack post explains what Identity Assurance Level 3 (IAL3) is, and re-examines my doubts about the effectiveness of so-called “voter ID” laws. Because if voter ID proponents REALLY wanted to guarantee that voters are eligible, they would have to do a LOT more. Security theater is not security. But what is the cost of true security?
There are a variety of non-person entities, all of which may engage in felonies. Take the late Maya Jean Yourex of Costa Mesa, California, who was encouraged to register to vote…even though Maya is a dog.
I’m sure that Carl DeMaio will hop on this story immediately.
Maya’s voting history
Maya first voted via mail-in ballot in the 2021 California gubernatorial recall election of Gavin Newsom. We know about this because Laura Lee Yourex posted a picture in January 2022 of her dog wearing an “I voted” sticker.
This could be dismissed as a silly picture, but Laura Lee’s October 2024 post exemplifies dumb crime. According to Orange County District Attorney spokeswoman Kimberly Edds (who presumably is human, though I haven’t verified this):
“Yourex had posted [a photo] in October 2024 of Maya’s dog tag and a vote-by-mail ballot with the caption “Maya is still getting her ballot,” even after the dog had passed away…”
The second ballot was rejected, but the first was counted.
Maya got away scot-free.
The fix was in. Imagen 4.
But Laura Lee potentially faces five felonies:
two counts of casting a ballot when not entitled to vote
perjury
procuring or offering a false or forged document to be filed
registering a non-existent person to vote
She is scheduled to enter a plea on Tuesday and theoretically faces six years behind bars.
“Proof of residence or identification is not required for citizens to register to vote in state elections or cast ballots in state elections, which was how Maya’s vote counted in the recall election of Newsom….
“It was not immediately known on Friday how Maya voted in that election.
“However, proof of residence and registration is required of first-time voters in federal elections, and the ballot in Maya’s name for the 2022 primary was challenged and rejected….”
Voting agencies can’t find fake IDs
However, as I have previously noted, voting officials do not have the knowledge or tools to determine whether a government identification document is legitimate.
This is fake. Well, the card is real, but it’s not official.
As long as Maya’s ID declared that she was 18 years old, some voting officials would approve it.
Even if Maya’s face on the ID was a dog face.
This is also fake. Really fake, since it’s Imagen 4 generated.
Beyond “ID plus selfie“
As for proof of residency, Laura Lee’s electric bill could list Maya on the account, and Southern California Edison would be none the wiser.
Which is why many identity verification processes go beyond “ID plus selfie” (what you have plus what you are), and also include checks of textual databases for additional evidence of the person.
I doubt that Laura Lee enrolled her dog Maya in all of these sources. How many Social Security Numbers, email addresses, bank accounts, credit cards, and other records would Maya have? “Canine identifiable information” (CII)?
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“[R]equire the state to verify proof of citizenship when a person registers to vote.”
Require voters to “provide identifications at the polls.”
“Those who vote through mail-in ballots would have to give the last four digits of a government-issued ID such as a Social Security number.”
Let’s go through these…backwards.
Mail-in ballots
The third proposal about authenticating mail-in ballots is silly.
The mere fact that someone knows the last four digits of a Social Security Number does NOT prove that the person is the valid holder of the Social Security Number in question.
Which brings us to the second proposal about requiring a government ID for in-person voting.
I’ve already addressed why this is silly. The short version? Election precinct workers have neither the equipment nor the training to tell whether a government ID is real or fake.
That only leaves the first one, proving citizenship at voter registration. This one is technically feasible; the feds do it all the time. The California Secretary of State could merely adapt the federal I-9 process to the state level; I’m sure Janice Kephart and her company ZipID would love to help the state with that.
Especially since the requirement for election integrity dictates that all of California’s existing voters would need to re-register to prove their citizenship.
All 22+ million of them.
Because if you DO NOT require all California voters to re-register, the whole exercise is pointless.
“If you want to use your driver’s license to fly, you’ll need a REAL ID. If you don’t have one yet, your state’s Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) is the place to go, and they’re only taking in-person appointments.”
The FTC is attempting to warn against scammers who claim to offer REAL ID services and then defraud you.
“During the online REAL ID application process, you will be prompted to upload documents that prove identity (e.g., valid passport or birth certificate) and residency (e.g., utility bill, bank statement).”
But you can’t do EVERYTHING online.
“Uploading images of these documents online will save you time when you visit the DMV office to complete your application so don’t skip this step. Bring the original documents submitted online to your REAL ID appointment.”
But whatever you do, don’t upload your documents to “the-real-id dot cn.”
The catch? Only certain states bordering Canada offer them.
Originally developed for both U.S. and Canadian use as part of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, as of May 2025 EDLs are only offered by the states of Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Vermont, and Washington. California considered issuing EDLs, but rejected the idea because of privacy concerns surrounding the underlying RFID technology.
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